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* Blatrimpe (08.05.3301 confirmed) - convoy UA<ref name="imgur.com">[http://imgur.com/a/dDJrg Find convoi Blatrimpe 08.05.3301], Imgur, 2015-07-04 09:00 GMT</ref> | * Blatrimpe (08.05.3301 confirmed) - convoy UA<ref name="imgur.com">[http://imgur.com/a/dDJrg Find convoi Blatrimpe 08.05.3301], Imgur, 2015-07-04 09:00 GMT</ref> | ||
* UN NO MYOIN (confirmed) | * UN NO MYOIN (confirmed) | ||
* Bast (Confirmed) - convoy UA<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2663506&viewfull=1#post2663506 Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn], ilmostro, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-08-08 08:05 GMT</ref> | * Bast (Confirmed) - convoy UA<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2663506&viewfull=1#post2663506 Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn], ilmostro, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-08-08 08:05 GMT</ref> | ||
* Wolf 289 (confirmed) - convoy UA{{Cite}} | * Wolf 289 (confirmed) - convoy UA{{Cite}} | ||
* HR 1185 (confirmed) - salvage UA{{Cite}} | * HR 1185 (confirmed) - salvage UA{{Cite}} | ||
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===Timeline of events=== | ===Timeline of events=== | ||
'''2280s '''Discovery of first non-human relic in space. Origin still unknown in 3300.<ref>[https://www.frontier.co.uk/games/older/frontier_elite_ii/ Frontier: Elite II], Frontier Developments</ref><ref>[http://lotf.co.uk/fe2_gazetteer.html Frontier: Elite II - Gazetteer], Ian Bell, David Braben, Kathy Dickinson, David Massey, 1992</ref><ref>[http://laveradio.com/writers-interview-3-dave-hughes/ Writers Interview 3 – Dave Hughes], Lave Radio, 2013-03-20 </ref> | '''2280s '''Discovery of first non-human relic in space. Origin still unknown in 3300.<ref>[https://www.frontier.co.uk/games/older/frontier_elite_ii/ Frontier: Elite II], Frontier Developments</ref><ref>[http://lotf.co.uk/fe2_gazetteer.html Frontier: Elite II - Gazetteer], Ian Bell, David Braben, Kathy Dickinson, David Massey, 1992</ref><ref>[http://laveradio.com/writers-interview-3-dave-hughes/ Writers Interview 3 – Dave Hughes], Lave Radio, 2013-03-20</ref> | ||
'''3300''' | '''3300''' | ||
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'''02 May''': MB says that they are "exceedingly rare [sic] and can only be found within a certain region of space - that does include multiple systems though." and then later clarifies that they can only be found in "certain regions in the galaxy".{{Cite}} | '''02 May''': MB says that they are "exceedingly rare [sic] and can only be found within a certain region of space - that does include multiple systems though." and then later clarifies that they can only be found in "certain regions in the galaxy".{{Cite}} | ||
''' | '''2 May''': Minos discovers an entry in the [[Elite Timeline|Elite Dangerous Pilots Guide]]:<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&p=2181189&viewfull=1#post2181189 Soontill Relics, the Regor Permit Sector and DB's cryptic hints....], Minos, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-05-02 18:13 GMT</ref> | ||
{{Quote|3276 - A strange object of unknown origin is discovered in the vicinity of Liazeda (-12,3). Named the LRA (Liazeda RadioAnomoly), the Alliance research ship, the Lion, is sent toinvestigate. The LRA and the ship disappears and its fate is still unknown in 3296. Only a handful of crew, who were deploying probes from two Explorer-class vessels return.|Elite: Dangerous Pilots Guide}} | {{Quote|3276 - A strange object of unknown origin is discovered in the vicinity of Liazeda (-12,3). Named the LRA (Liazeda RadioAnomoly), the Alliance research ship, the Lion, is sent toinvestigate. The LRA and the ship disappears and its fate is still unknown in 3296. Only a handful of crew, who were deploying probes from two Explorer-class vessels return.|Elite: Dangerous Pilots Guide}} | ||
''' | '''4 May''': Wishblend finds the first UA in 109 Virginis, but unfortunately doesn't get it.<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&p=2187286&viewfull=1#post2187286 ], Wishblend, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-05-04 12:08 GMT</ref> Henceforth officially celebrated as UA Day across the galaxy, and the official title of UA Seeker was born. That afternoon, a further number were spotted but RedWizzard finally managed to actually grab one in [[Timocani]].<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&p=2187567&viewfull=1#post2187567 Soontill Relics, the Regor Permit Sector and DB's cryptic hints....], RedWizzard, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-05-04 13:10 GMT</ref> Due to a bug a couple more were accidentally duplicated (bug reported).{{Cite}} | ||
''' | '''4 May''': ''[Player Submitted]'' GalNet reports baffled 'scientists' (players involved in the search and recovery UAs) having found an Unknown Artefact.<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/86f2081368ff47d51ff9239e8b2f75bc16e34af8 Scientists Baffled by Mysterious Artefacts], GalNet News, 3301-05-04</ref> | ||
''' | '''6 May''': [[President Halsey]]'s tour of the frontier announced.<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/fbfb919f69da401c72e062a8165c8e6fcc348180 Tour of Frontier Systems Set to Begin Shortly], GalNet News, 3301-05-06</ref> | ||
''' | '''7 May''': ''[Player Submitted]'' 'Dr' Arcanonn challenges Halsey about UAs <ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/e4997791212280957af91846c238aef9b78d15d8 Arcanonn Challenges Halsey], GalNet News, 3301-05-07</ref> | ||
''' | '''8 May''': Two sightings of UA Convoys by CMDR Nilreb in [[Blahtrimpe]].<ref name="imgur.com" /><ref>[http://imgur.com/a/oKNja UA_hunt_#2], Imgur, 2015-07-04 09:21 GMT</ref> | ||
'''13 May''': President Halsey sets off from [[Sol]].<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/05536c768f3cc2432a738c08ad198530bd7c2e88 President Halsey Sets Out from Sol], GalNet News, 3301-05-13</ref> | '''13 May''': President Halsey sets off from [[Sol]].<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/05536c768f3cc2432a738c08ad198530bd7c2e88 President Halsey Sets Out from Sol], GalNet News, 3301-05-13</ref> | ||
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'''17 May''': ''[Player Submitted]'' 'Dr' Arcanonn accuses [[Federation]] a cover-up about the UAs.<ref name="community.elitedangerous.com">[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/c07072d20059e82cfa731acf8469dd104a7f88fc Federation Accused of Cover-up], GalNet News, 3301-05-17</ref> | '''17 May''': ''[Player Submitted]'' 'Dr' Arcanonn accuses [[Federation]] a cover-up about the UAs.<ref name="community.elitedangerous.com">[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/c07072d20059e82cfa731acf8469dd104a7f88fc Federation Accused of Cover-up], GalNet News, 3301-05-17</ref> | ||
'''18 May''': Subsequent report on | '''18 May''': Subsequent report on Soontill Relics in [[GalNet]].<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/2ff0af566b06e051c2af52cd02a467351b449535 Soontill Relics Test Results Queried], GalNet News, 3301-05-18</ref> | ||
'''20 May''': ''[Player Submitted]'' Tonnes of [[Biowaste]] dropped at 78 Ursae Majoris in protest against Federal cover-up of the UA, Dr Arcanonn denies links with the action.<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/32edcb230646f31c35f0edc87880b5f692f33452 Anti-Federation Terrorists Linked to Artefact Research], GalNet News, 3301-05-20</ref> | '''20 May''': ''[Player Submitted]'' Tonnes of [[Biowaste]] dropped at 78 Ursae Majoris in protest against Federal cover-up of the UA, Dr Arcanonn denies links with the action.<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/32edcb230646f31c35f0edc87880b5f692f33452 Anti-Federation Terrorists Linked to Artefact Research], GalNet News, 3301-05-20</ref> | ||
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'''28/29 May''': Conspiracy theories abound.<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/8b77b16c574e3d023419b49c2a0a662d6bcc7cea The Truth is Out There], GalNet News, 3301-05-28</ref> | '''28/29 May''': Conspiracy theories abound.<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/8b77b16c574e3d023419b49c2a0a662d6bcc7cea The Truth is Out There], GalNet News, 3301-05-28</ref> | ||
''' | '''2 June''': [[Zachary Hudson]] becomes [[Federal president]].<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/556ddd259657ba047533fa1c Zachary Hudson Becomes the New President of the Federation], GalNet News, 3301-06-02</ref> | ||
''' | '''5 June''': Strange cannisters called [[Sap 8 Core Container]] appears in the game with launch of v1.3.{{Cite}} No evidence that these are linked to UAs so far. | ||
'''22 June''': CMDR MahdDogg publishes his panel discussion about Powerplay, in which CMDR Kerrash mentions that "about the whole UA thing, there ''is'' something behind that, but no one has figured it out yet" (29m 30s) and that "[Frontier] have put some really obvious [clues] in there and we don't want to put anything else in" for fear of spoiling what is to come in the future.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWolEEM_e0 State of the Game - Elite: Dangerous Panel Discussion], Mahd Dogg, YouTube, 2015-06-22</ref> | '''22 June''': CMDR MahdDogg publishes his panel discussion about Powerplay, in which CMDR Kerrash mentions that "about the whole UA thing, there ''is'' something behind that, but no one has figured it out yet" (29m 30s) and that "[Frontier] have put some really obvious [clues] in there and we don't want to put anything else in" for fear of spoiling what is to come in the future.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWolEEM_e0 State of the Game - Elite: Dangerous Panel Discussion], Mahd Dogg, YouTube, 2015-06-22</ref> | ||
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'''27 June''': CMDR Kerrash talks about various things, including Thargoid conjecture ("They are coming"), and that the UA and confirms there is something to it, and that "if any people watching have got in with the UA thing and got halfway in and not looked into it anymore, please pleeease carry on looking, there is something there, there is an interesting secret there, please look, and the SAP 8 containers as well, there is something going on, dont give up!".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RD6rmO_28s?t=10m53s Elite: Dangerous - Kerrash Landing #110 - 2/2], Kerrash Landing, YouTube, 2015-06-27</ref> | '''27 June''': CMDR Kerrash talks about various things, including Thargoid conjecture ("They are coming"), and that the UA and confirms there is something to it, and that "if any people watching have got in with the UA thing and got halfway in and not looked into it anymore, please pleeease carry on looking, there is something there, there is an interesting secret there, please look, and the SAP 8 containers as well, there is something going on, dont give up!".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RD6rmO_28s?t=10m53s Elite: Dangerous - Kerrash Landing #110 - 2/2], Kerrash Landing, YouTube, 2015-06-27</ref> | ||
''' | '''5 July''': CMDR Kerrash comes into the new thread, asks "Has anybody cracked it yet?", when gently prodded follows up with "Frontier did not spend all this effort in making a wild goose chase, I would imagine quite the fanfare when the truth is uncovered. BTW Are we even sure it is morse code?" and "Yes there is more to it, I will see if I can get FD to drop another hint".<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2502255&viewfull=1#post2502255 Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn], Kerrash, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-07-05 18:33 GMT</ref><ref name=":2">https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2502284&viewfull=1#post2502284</ref> | ||
''' | '''6 July''': CMDR Branch finds another UA.<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2503739&viewfull=1#post2503739 Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn], mrtree, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-07-06 04:22 GMT</ref> | ||
'''10 July''': [player submitted] UA Scientists claim a breakthrough that the UA broadcasts its closest celestial body (or station) in a form of morse code.<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/559fde649657ba225a47e853 Breakthrough in Artefact Research?], GalNet News, 3301-07-10</ref> | '''10 July''': [player submitted] UA Scientists claim a breakthrough that the UA broadcasts its closest celestial body (or station) in a form of morse code.<ref>[https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/559fde649657ba225a47e853 Breakthrough in Artefact Research?], GalNet News, 3301-07-10</ref> | ||
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* The Decoy Beacon Theory | * The Decoy Beacon Theory | ||
** Along the lines of President Halsey's mysterious disappearance, her ship jumped and never arrived at the point it was expected. This theory proposes that the UA acts as a decoy nav beacon, drawing its unlucky victim into a waiting ambush instead of the usual arrival point.<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2611454&viewfull=1#post2611454 Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn], Grumbleweed, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-07-30 08:18 GMT</ref> | ** Along the lines of President Halsey's mysterious disappearance, her ship jumped and never arrived at the point it was expected. This theory proposes that the UA acts as a decoy nav beacon, drawing its unlucky victim into a waiting ambush instead of the usual arrival point.<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2611454&viewfull=1#post2611454 Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn], Grumbleweed, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-07-30 08:18 GMT</ref> | ||
* The [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/INRA INRA]/[http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/The_Dark_Wheel Dark Wheel/]CEIP theory | * The [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/INRA INRA]/[http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/The_Dark_Wheel Dark Wheel/] CEIP theory | ||
** Based on consistent lore from [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/And_Here_The_Wheel John Harper's And Here the Wheel] and in-game [[:Category:Events|Events]], as well as [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/FFE/Journals from Frontier First Encounters], this theory posits that the UAs are being used to generate fear of aliens, via propaganda linking them to such events as the Cerberus Plague and the disappearance of Starship One. [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/INRA INRA], or a breakaway faction of [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/The_Dark_Wheel the Dark Wheel,] the Circle of Elite Independent Pilots, or "Ceepers", would be behind the appearance of the UAs and the propaganda, and the assassination of the Federation President and linking that event to the UAs and aliens, in order to force a war between the Federation and Empire so that humanity would unite under the winner against the purported alien threat. It is possible that the crystal at the heart of the SAP-8 Core Container is a data crystal from a Ceeper Base containing information related to Soontill, Raxxla, and aliens. | ** Based on consistent lore from [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/And_Here_The_Wheel John Harper's And Here the Wheel] and in-game [[:Category:Events|Events]], as well as [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/FFE/Journals from Frontier First Encounters], this theory posits that the UAs are being used to generate fear of aliens, via propaganda linking them to such events as the Cerberus Plague and the disappearance of Starship One. [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/INRA INRA], or a breakaway faction of [http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/The_Dark_Wheel the Dark Wheel,] the Circle of Elite Independent Pilots, or "Ceepers", would be behind the appearance of the UAs and the propaganda, and the assassination of the Federation President and linking that event to the UAs and aliens, in order to force a war between the Federation and Empire so that humanity would unite under the winner against the purported alien threat. It is possible that the crystal at the heart of the SAP-8 Core Container is a data crystal from a Ceeper Base containing information related to Soontill, Raxxla, and aliens. | ||
* The Alien Probe or Alien Terraformer theory | * The Alien Probe or Alien Terraformer theory | ||
** Similar to the scanner theory above, the idea here is that the alien race behind the UA have encountered one or both of the Voyagers (which were believed to have gone missing in the game, but voyager 2 has recently been found)<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&p=2720590&viewfull=1#post2720590 UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn], Panzartard, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-08-20</ref> | ** Similar to the scanner theory above, the idea here is that the alien race behind the UA have encountered one or both of the Voyagers (which were believed to have gone missing in the game, but voyager 2 has recently been found),<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&p=2720590&viewfull=1#post2720590 UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn], Panzartard, Elite: Dangerous Forums, 2015-08-20</ref> from which they learnt to communicate via the stylized Morse and the whale sounds and dolphin or sea turtle chittering and honks that are similar to their own language. Find a Voyager, and with it and the UA together, communication can occur with the aliens, somehow. | ||
** Or, the probe is looking for something, like a suitable planet for terraforming, and transmitting its coordinates using the stylized Morse. Once it has found what it is looking for, this message will change. | ** Or, the probe is looking for something, like a suitable planet for terraforming, and transmitting its coordinates using the stylized Morse. Once it has found what it is looking for, this message will change. | ||
** Neither hold a lot of water as it deteriorates over time in space. Although the probe could be damaged. | ** Neither hold a lot of water as it deteriorates over time in space. Although the probe could be damaged. | ||
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* Tested with Baltah'sine Vacuum Krill (a space-born delicacy) in the ring they supposedly spawned in, theory being the UA has expensive taste = Nothing <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo-vaZOmGL4</ref> | * Tested with Baltah'sine Vacuum Krill (a space-born delicacy) in the ring they supposedly spawned in, theory being the UA has expensive taste = Nothing <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo-vaZOmGL4</ref> | ||
* Tested with HIP Proto-Squid = Nothing <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCEQIpjZRMQ</ref> | * Tested with HIP Proto-Squid = Nothing <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCEQIpjZRMQ</ref> | ||
* Attempted to send it Morse over local comms (the current stellar body, "Thargoid", "Raxxla") = Nothing <ref name=":5">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLa2T0itxk</ref> <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrC7MxiveN0</ref> | * Attempted to send it Morse over local comms (the current stellar body, "Thargoid", "Raxxla") = Nothing <ref name=":5">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLa2T0itxk</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrC7MxiveN0</ref> | ||
* Attempted shutting off Life Support to see if it would affect the toxic corrosion (w/o O2 in the cargo hold) = Nothing <ref name=":5" /> | * Attempted shutting off Life Support to see if it would affect the toxic corrosion (w/o O2 in the cargo hold) = Nothing <ref name=":5" /> | ||
* CMDR's have jumped systems or into supercruise while near a UA or into a system with the UA being deployed to no effect. This has been done in a Wing as well, with part of the Wing in one system and the UA and the rest of the Wing in an adjacent system, with the UA dropped in normal space to see if it would work as some sort of system to system jump beacon for a Wing, to no effect. | * CMDR's have jumped systems or into supercruise while near a UA or into a system with the UA being deployed to no effect. This has been done in a Wing as well, with part of the Wing in one system and the UA and the rest of the Wing in an adjacent system, with the UA dropped in normal space to see if it would work as some sort of system to system jump beacon for a Wing, to no effect. | ||
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* Regor Sector - Still Permit Unknown Required with a UA | * Regor Sector - Still Permit Unknown Required with a UA | ||
* Voyagers | * Voyagers | ||
** Voyager 2 has been found on 21-08-15, and some tests are currently being carried out by Commander J Stoutbeard <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&p=2720590&viewfull=1#post2720590</ref> | ** Voyager 2 has been found on 21-08-15, and some tests are currently being carried out by Commander J Stoutbeard.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&p=2720590&viewfull=1#post2720590</ref> Tests have been performed where the Voyagers are expected to be (see above), but not when Voyager is present, until .<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=74&p=2528722&highlight=voyager#post2528722</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-coArFEuX3Y</ref> | ||
== Proposed Testing Regimen== | == Proposed Testing Regimen== | ||
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#* '''Expected Outcome:''' UA will reply with different Morse other than closest celestial object name | #* '''Expected Outcome:''' UA will reply with different Morse other than closest celestial object name | ||
#* '''Taken on by: '''CMDR Branch | #* '''Taken on by: '''CMDR Branch | ||
#* '''Actual Outcome: '''Tried in Saga. Did both "Saga" & "Saga A" in Morse. <ref name=":5" /> No apparent change in behavior or sound. | #* '''Actual Outcome: '''Tried in Saga. Did both "Saga" & "Saga A" in Morse.<ref name=":5" /> No apparent change in behavior or sound. | ||
# Take a UA to the planet Quy in Quiness system | # Take a UA to the planet Quy in Quiness system | ||
#* '''Purpose:''' See if behaviour changes in a system with a known Thargoid presence from FFE (and possibly in ED given description of the planet) | #* '''Purpose:''' See if behaviour changes in a system with a known Thargoid presence from FFE (and possibly in ED given description of the planet) | ||
#* '''Expected Outcome:''' Unknown | #* '''Expected Outcome:''' Unknown | ||
#* '''Taken on by: '''CMDR Branch | #* '''Taken on by: '''CMDR Branch | ||
#* '''Actual outcome: '''Unclear. Standard UA sounds <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZraNJSjac</ref> | #* '''Actual outcome: '''Unclear. Standard UA sounds,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZraNJSjac</ref> but I wasn't able to confirm the Morse. Another forum user did confirm that Morse was "Quy". | ||
# Reproduce a mis-jump in an identical convoy of a T9 carrying a UA in a wing with 2 Anacondas. | # Reproduce a mis-jump in an identical convoy of a T9 carrying a UA in a wing with 2 Anacondas. | ||
#* '''Purpose:''' See if a mis-jump occurs either in the Anacondas or the T9 | #* '''Purpose:''' See if a mis-jump occurs either in the Anacondas or the T9 | ||
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*Ensure landing gear is up before scooping, some ship models have the front landing gear blocking the cargo hatch. | *Ensure landing gear is up before scooping, some ship models have the front landing gear blocking the cargo hatch. | ||
*The UA can make you a target for other CMDR/player groups! | *The UA can make you a target for other CMDR/player groups! | ||
*Watch closly each "blip" on radar while testing. Don't forget how good NPC's can be now and how hard it was to gain the UA. Guarding CMDR's are a great option also when they stay 3 km away! | *Watch closly each "blip" on radar while testing. Don't forget how good NPC's can be now and how hard it was to gain the UA. Guarding CMDR's are a great option also when they stay 3 km away! | ||
*When testing make sure you are keeping at very low speeds and never pointing at the UA as it's very easy to crash into one and blow it up, this also goes for anyone else with you as destructions by that has happened. | *When testing make sure you are keeping at very low speeds and never pointing at the UA as it's very easy to crash into one and blow it up, this also goes for anyone else with you as destructions by that has happened. | ||