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* Timocani (confirmed) | * Timocani (confirmed) | ||
* 109 Virginis (confirmed) | * 109 Virginis (confirmed) | ||
* Tanmark <ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/2z0w6g/thargoid_transport_in_tanmark/</ref> (confirmed) | * Tanmark <ref name="reddit.com">http://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/2z0w6g/thargoid_transport_in_tanmark/</ref> (confirmed) | ||
* HIP 102128 <ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/363y6k/unknown_artifact_found_in_imperial_convoy/</ref> (confirmed) | * HIP 102128 <ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/363y6k/unknown_artifact_found_in_imperial_convoy/</ref> (confirmed) | ||
* Reshas <ref>http://www.01nk.com/EDPics/UA_Convoy.jpg</ref> (20.05.3301 confirmed) | * Reshas <ref>http://www.01nk.com/EDPics/UA_Convoy.jpg</ref> (20.05.3301 confirmed) | ||
* Blatrimpe <ref>http://imgur.com/a/dDJrg</ref> (08.05.3301 confirmed) | * Blatrimpe <ref name="imgur.com">http://imgur.com/a/dDJrg</ref> (08.05.3301 confirmed) | ||
* UN NO MYOIN 78 -95 -61 (confirmed) | * UN NO MYOIN 78 -95 -61 (confirmed) | ||
* Chamunda (unconfirmed) | * Chamunda (unconfirmed) | ||
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'''13 March''': The UA appeared for the first time as cargo on board the ship in the official 1.2 Wings trailer <ref name=":3">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23GEX4pYL9w</ref> | '''13 March''': The UA appeared for the first time as cargo on board the ship in the official 1.2 Wings trailer <ref name=":3">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23GEX4pYL9w</ref> | ||
'''14 March''': Strange chatter in a Federal Convoy in the Tanmark system reported on Reddit <ref | '''14 March''': Strange chatter in a Federal Convoy in the Tanmark system reported on Reddit <ref name="reddit.com"/> | ||
'''28 April''': Arcannon innocently asks a simple question and starts the longest thread in Elite Dangerous Forums' history <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=2160913#post2160913</ref> (now closed) which reached almost 10k posts and has had to be redirected to a new thread <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998</ref> | '''28 April''': Arcannon innocently asks a simple question and starts the longest thread in Elite Dangerous Forums' history <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=2160913#post2160913</ref> (now closed) which reached almost 10k posts and has had to be redirected to a new thread <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998</ref> | ||
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'''07 May''': ''[Player Submitted]'' 'Dr' Arcanonn challenges Halsey about UAs <ref>https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/07-MAY-3301</ref> | '''07 May''': ''[Player Submitted]'' 'Dr' Arcanonn challenges Halsey about UAs <ref>https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/07-MAY-3301</ref> | ||
'''08 May''': Two sightings of UA Convoys by CMDR Nilreb in Blahtrimpe <ref | '''08 May''': Two sightings of UA Convoys by CMDR Nilreb in Blahtrimpe <ref name="imgur.com"/><ref>http://imgur.com/a/oKNja</ref> | ||
'''13 May''': President Halsey sets off from Sol <ref>https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/13-MAY-3301</ref> | '''13 May''': President Halsey sets off from Sol <ref>https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/13-MAY-3301</ref> | ||
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'''06 July''': CMDR Branch finds another UA <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2503739&viewfull=1#post2503739</ref> | '''06 July''': CMDR Branch finds another UA <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2503739&viewfull=1#post2503739</ref> | ||
'''10 July''': [player submitted] UA Scientists claim a breakthrough that the UA broadcasts its closest celestial body (or station) in a form of morse code. <ref>https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/10-JUL-3301</ref> | '''10 July''': [player submitted] UA Scientists claim a breakthrough that the UA broadcasts its closest celestial body (or station) in a form of morse code.<ref>https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/10-JUL-3301</ref> | ||
'''14 July''': CMDR Patau82 spots another convoy in Timocani, but unfortunately fails to grab it. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2542242&viewfull=1#post2542242</ref> They are still spawning. | '''14 July''': CMDR Patau82 spots another convoy in Timocani, but unfortunately fails to grab it.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2542242&viewfull=1#post2542242</ref> They are still spawning. | ||
'''14 July''': Reports of a 'Cerberus' plague "beyond BD-02 4304" <ref name=":4">https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/14-JUL-3301</ref> which mentions "an unusual three-pronged structure at the ‘head’ of the phage-like organism." which led to the Phage Theory (see below). Later lead to six Community Goals in three different systems, three anti piracy and three bring medicines ("Debilitating disease devastating 20 Opiuchi / Dajoar / Eleu" and "Movement For Dajoar Independants / Social Eleu Progressive Party / Workers of 20 Opiuchi Values Party Pay for Protection"). | '''14 July''': Reports of a 'Cerberus' plague "beyond BD-02 4304" <ref name=":4">https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/14-JUL-3301</ref> which mentions "an unusual three-pronged structure at the ‘head’ of the phage-like organism." which led to the Phage Theory (see below). Later lead to six Community Goals in three different systems, three anti piracy and three bring medicines ("Debilitating disease devastating 20 Opiuchi / Dajoar / Eleu" and "Movement For Dajoar Independants / Social Eleu Progressive Party / Workers of 20 Opiuchi Values Party Pay for Protection"). | ||
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'''20 July''': CMDR Branch loses his second UA through a scooping incident by another commander. | '''20 July''': CMDR Branch loses his second UA through a scooping incident by another commander. | ||
'''23 July''': CMDR Britain finds an Unknown Artefact. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=279&p=2583760#post2583760</ref> | '''23 July''': CMDR Britain finds an Unknown Artefact.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=279&p=2583760#post2583760</ref> | ||
'''25 July''': CMDR Branch finds another UA, bringing the known possessed count back up to 3. This is also the third UA Branch has recovered. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2593742&viewfull=1#post2593742</ref> | '''25 July''': CMDR Branch finds another UA, bringing the known possessed count back up to 3. This is also the third UA Branch has recovered.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2593742&viewfull=1#post2593742</ref> | ||
'''28 July:''' CMDR Blain Crighton & his wing manage to obtain TWO Unknown Artefacts (may be the result of a P2P bug?) from the same convoy. One of theirs was accidentally crushed after being released in a station, the other was sold at Leonard Nimoy Memorial Station <ref>https://youtu.be/O_J6apLfs1I</ref> (to no obvious effect). | '''28 July:''' CMDR Blain Crighton & his wing manage to obtain TWO Unknown Artefacts (may be the result of a P2P bug?) from the same convoy. One of theirs was accidentally crushed after being released in a station, the other was sold at Leonard Nimoy Memorial Station <ref>https://youtu.be/O_J6apLfs1I</ref> (to no obvious effect). | ||
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** The sounds the UA makes have also been compared to the sounds planetary bodies make in the system map <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=144782</ref> | ** The sounds the UA makes have also been compared to the sounds planetary bodies make in the system map <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=144782</ref> | ||
* The Colour Pulse Theory | * The Colour Pulse Theory | ||
** The UA pulses purple and green, apparently randomly. There is a new theory that the green pulses increase in number the closer it is to its origin (or destination). <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2510274&viewfull=1#post2510274</ref> | ** The UA pulses purple and green, apparently randomly. There is a new theory that the green pulses increase in number the closer it is to its origin (or destination).<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2510274&viewfull=1#post2510274</ref> | ||
* The Mayan Numbers Theory | * The Mayan Numbers Theory | ||
** The markings on the UA <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2542602&viewfull=1#post2542602</ref> look similar to the ancient Mayan number system (base 20) and it has been discussed at length in the forums. No real breakthrough as yet. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2538363&viewfull=1#post2538363</ref> | ** The markings on the UA <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2542602&viewfull=1#post2542602</ref> look similar to the ancient Mayan number system (base 20) and it has been discussed at length in the forums. No real breakthrough as yet.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2538363&viewfull=1#post2538363</ref> | ||
* Price Triangulation Theory | * Price Triangulation Theory | ||
** This theory proposes that, with regular rare goods, the selling price for the UA should reduce the closer it gets to its origin. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=142906</ref> | ** This theory proposes that, with regular rare goods, the selling price for the UA should reduce the closer it gets to its origin.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=142906</ref> | ||
* Thargoids | * Thargoids | ||
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** A recent poster <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2519619&viewfull=1#post2519619</ref> suggested that it might be a miniature space station and the little flecks of light are its tiny ships. Further speculation included ejecting gold nearby to tempt the Leprechauns out of hiding, suggesting an Irish origin. These theories have yet to be disproven. | ** A recent poster <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2519619&viewfull=1#post2519619</ref> suggested that it might be a miniature space station and the little flecks of light are its tiny ships. Further speculation included ejecting gold nearby to tempt the Leprechauns out of hiding, suggesting an Irish origin. These theories have yet to be disproven. | ||
* The Leviathon Theory | * The Leviathon Theory | ||
** Influenced by possible clues in the Wings 1.2 Trailer <ref name=":3" /> | ** Influenced by possible clues in the Wings 1.2 Trailer,<ref name=":3" /> this theory picks up many references which appear to point towards the word 'Leviathon'.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2568833&viewfull=1#post2568833</ref> The Leviathon was a 200 metre long fish which inhabited the planet New California in the Laiququ system. Unfortunately, that system doesn't appear to exist in the game. | ||
* The Phage Theory | * The Phage Theory | ||
** On 14 July a Galnet article mentioned an outbreak of disease, which mentioned a three pronged 'phage like' organism' <ref name=":4" /> which led people to make the connection that the UA could be a Phage of some sorts, as it looks similar in some ways <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2551422&viewfull=1#post2551422</ref> <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2569753&viewfull=1#post2569753</ref> | ** On 14 July a Galnet article mentioned an outbreak of disease, which mentioned a three pronged 'phage like' organism' <ref name=":4" /> which led people to make the connection that the UA could be a Phage of some sorts, as it looks similar in some ways.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2551422&viewfull=1#post2551422</ref><ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2569753&viewfull=1#post2569753</ref> Earth Phages are microscopic organisms, so the UA's host would have to be enormous, which is a scary thought. | ||
* Discharge upon final decay | * Discharge upon final decay | ||
** Once a UA reaches 0% in open space, it explosively discharges green sparks from the 12 "pods" while emitting a screaming howl, and fires what appears to be an energy or plasma pulse rapidly away from the "head" of the artefact <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhpdLsLgsWc</ref> | ** Once a UA reaches 0% in open space, it explosively discharges green sparks from the 12 "pods" while emitting a screaming howl, and fires what appears to be an energy or plasma pulse rapidly away from the "head" of the artefact.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhpdLsLgsWc</ref> What is the purpose of this explosive ending?<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edvUqVgAcY0</ref> Is the UA going off like a bomb? Is it delivering a payload of some kind? Some speculate that the UAs might be used to counter the so-called "Cerberus Plague" in some manner. Others speculate that the Cerberus Plague is being spread by the UAs. Further research is needed to determine the nature and character of a UA's decay and demise. | ||
* The Decoy Beacon Theory | * The Decoy Beacon Theory | ||
** Along the lines of President Halsey's mysterious disappearance, her ship jumped and never arrived at the point it was expected. This theory proposes that the UA acts as a decoy nav beacon, drawing its unlucky victim into a waiting ambush instead of the usual arrival point. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2611454&viewfull=1#post2611454</ref> | ** Along the lines of President Halsey's mysterious disappearance, her ship jumped and never arrived at the point it was expected. This theory proposes that the UA acts as a decoy nav beacon, drawing its unlucky victim into a waiting ambush instead of the usual arrival point.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2611454&viewfull=1#post2611454</ref> | ||
=== Theories Disproved=== | === Theories Disproved=== | ||
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** It was proposed that there are only a limited number of UA's available in the game in total and that the next step will only be accessible if we let them all expire. Since then confirmed sightings of more UA's have been reported and the possibility of additional UAs in the possession of commanders who don't know of the main research group or who have left the game, the limited number theory has been refuted. It seems unlikely that FD would rely on the destruction of all UAs as a trigger for the next stage as its impossible to tell when that has actually happened. In addition, similarly to the 'Sell It' theory and the 'let them finish' theory, consensus between the UA custodians was that there is still much research work to do before we risk their sacrifice in the name of a hunch.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2537143&viewfull=1#post2537143</ref> | ** It was proposed that there are only a limited number of UA's available in the game in total and that the next step will only be accessible if we let them all expire. Since then confirmed sightings of more UA's have been reported and the possibility of additional UAs in the possession of commanders who don't know of the main research group or who have left the game, the limited number theory has been refuted. It seems unlikely that FD would rely on the destruction of all UAs as a trigger for the next stage as its impossible to tell when that has actually happened. In addition, similarly to the 'Sell It' theory and the 'let them finish' theory, consensus between the UA custodians was that there is still much research work to do before we risk their sacrifice in the name of a hunch.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2537143&viewfull=1#post2537143</ref> | ||
* Let them finish what they are designed to do (unverifiable) | * Let them finish what they are designed to do (unverifiable) | ||
** The theory suggests that the UA tends to want to destroy itself and the ship that carries it, and therefore taking it long distances would seem the opposite of what its designed to do. The suggestion is that it would be interesting to see in detail, closeup, what happens when they expire. The theory is that they seem to scan an area and then explode from the bottom of the structure toward the head/node. During this, there apppears to be a burst of energy in the vector of the explosion a strange space field type pulse, spacial distortion, dimensional rift or a graphical glitch of the shadow effect of the UA's own silhouette <ref>http://i.imgur.com/X6FjMwf.gifv</ref> | ** The theory suggests that the UA tends to want to destroy itself and the ship that carries it, and therefore taking it long distances would seem the opposite of what its designed to do. The suggestion is that it would be interesting to see in detail, closeup, what happens when they expire. The theory is that they seem to scan an area and then explode from the bottom of the structure toward the head/node. During this, there apppears to be a burst of energy in the vector of the explosion a strange space field type pulse, spacial distortion, dimensional rift or a graphical glitch of the shadow effect of the UA's own silhouette.<ref>http://i.imgur.com/X6FjMwf.gifv</ref> The theory further suggests that the UAs either explode, travel to a new location or go home. The UA has already been filmed expiring on a couple of occasions <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2541462&viewfull=1#post2541462</ref> and nothing dramatic happened, and unfortunately this theory requires the sacrifice of an exceedingly rare object. | ||
* Sell it at Leonard Nimoy Station | * Sell it at Leonard Nimoy Station | ||
** The first sighting of the UA in the 1.2 Wings Trailer <ref name=":3" /> had the carriers heading to Leonard Nimoy Station to sell it. Unfortunately, the UA spawn is so rare that understandably none of the custodians want to sell theirs. | ** The first sighting of the UA in the 1.2 Wings Trailer <ref name=":3" /> had the carriers heading to Leonard Nimoy Station to sell it. Unfortunately, the UA spawn is so rare that understandably none of the custodians want to sell theirs. | ||
** Further researches about Leonard Nimoy, brought to our attention a record he contributed to, named [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whales_Alive Whales Alive] , where he reads poems about the sea and Whales. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbm7f0j7JVo&list=PL9S22cFnPMpBrCxWu5lq2P7lcErD-HtP8&index=7 Listening to it], a lot of similarities to the sounds the UA emits, can be found. <ref name=": | ** Further researches about Leonard Nimoy, brought to our attention a record he contributed to, named [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whales_Alive Whales Alive] , where he reads poems about the sea and Whales. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbm7f0j7JVo&list=PL9S22cFnPMpBrCxWu5lq2P7lcErD-HtP8&index=7 Listening to it], a lot of similarities to the sounds the UA emits, can be found.<ref name=":6">https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=265&p=2580919&viewfull=1#post2580919</ref> | ||
** In Start Trek IV movie, Leonard Nimoy is able to communicate with a Whale, and to understand her. <ref name=":6" | ** In Start Trek IV movie, Leonard Nimoy is able to communicate with a Whale, and to understand her.<ref name=":6"/> | ||
** CMDR Blain Crighton sold a UA at Leonard Nimoy station on 28/07/15. No effect. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2603802&viewfull=1#post2603802</ref> | ** CMDR Blain Crighton sold a UA at Leonard Nimoy station on 28/07/15. No effect.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2603802&viewfull=1#post2603802</ref> | ||
=== Tests done === | === Tests done === | ||
* Audio recordings have (mostly) been done in '[[Debug Camera|debug camera]]' mode, so as to eliminate ship sounds and with systems disabled (including life support) | * Audio recordings have (mostly) been done in '[[Debug Camera|debug camera]]' mode, so as to eliminate ship sounds and with systems disabled (including life support) | ||
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* UA has been dropped by it'self and with a SAP 8 container at the same area | * UA has been dropped by it'self and with a SAP 8 container at the same area | ||
* UA has been taken to a capital ship, both in the cargo hold & free-floating in space. No comms or interest from the capital ship at all. | * UA has been taken to a capital ship, both in the cargo hold & free-floating in space. No comms or interest from the capital ship at all. | ||
* Has been taken to Themiscrya, it can be found on galaxy map by searching for "them" (as in have you tried listening to them), in mythology this was the capital of the nation of all-female warriors called Amazons<ref>http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CGYQmhMwC2oVChMIg9HDg_rixgIVylcUCh1OhQbk&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FThemiscyra_(mythology)&ei=pV6pVcPqHsqvUc6KmqAO&usg=AFQjCNGhtj83dGpYLsfF9pyrgtjgx_2H3w</ref> | * Has been taken to Themiscrya, it can be found on galaxy map by searching for "them" (as in have you tried listening to them), in mythology this was the capital of the nation of all-female warriors called Amazons.<ref>http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CGYQmhMwC2oVChMIg9HDg_rixgIVylcUCh1OhQbk&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FThemiscyra_(mythology)&ei=pV6pVcPqHsqvUc6KmqAO&usg=AFQjCNGhtj83dGpYLsfF9pyrgtjgx_2H3w</ref> Apparently the Thargoids are also an all female race.<ref>http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Thargoids</ref> | ||
** The result of the audio tests were peculiar but inconclusive. The UA made 3 purrs during the first audio sequence, then 5/6 purrs for every sequence afterward <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB8DR0a23Nw?t=42s</ref> | ** The result of the audio tests were peculiar but inconclusive. The UA made 3 purrs during the first audio sequence, then 5/6 purrs for every sequence afterward.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB8DR0a23Nw?t=42s</ref> This test was repeated again with the same result.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GgCcaN7Nyo?t=34s</ref> Ratking15 was looking at the UA towards the planet, Zenith was looking from the side of the UA outward into space. | ||
* Tested with fish, the theory being it wants fish! No response. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2591462&viewfull=1#post2591462</ref> | * Tested with fish, the theory being it wants fish! No response.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2591462&viewfull=1#post2591462</ref> | ||
* Tested with Baltah'sine Vacuum Krill (a space-born delicacy) in the ring they supposedly spawned in, theory being the UA has expensive taste = Nothing <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo-vaZOmGL4</ref> | * Tested with Baltah'sine Vacuum Krill (a space-born delicacy) in the ring they supposedly spawned in, theory being the UA has expensive taste = Nothing <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo-vaZOmGL4</ref> | ||
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** how to get the permit is unknown | ** how to get the permit is unknown | ||
* Voyager | * Voyager | ||
** Voyager is currently missing. Tests have been performed where Voyager is expected to be (see above), but not when Voyager is present. <ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=74&p=2528722&highlight=voyager#post2528722</ref> | ** Voyager is currently missing. Tests have been performed where Voyager is expected to be (see above), but not when Voyager is present.<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=74&p=2528722&highlight=voyager#post2528722</ref> | ||
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== References == | == References == | ||
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