Elite Dangerous FAQ: Difference between revisions

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==='''What are the general differences between "Elite: Dangerous" and "Star Citizen"?'''===

: The differences are predominantly in '''issues surrounding scale, complexity of background simulations''' ~~and~~ '''adherence to recognised science of the universe.'''

: The differences are predominantly in '''issues surrounding scale, complexity of background simulations''', '''adherence to recognised science of the universe '''and '''release schedule'''.

: '''Star Citizen''' comes with a [http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Squadron_42 single-player ~~focussed~~ cinematic scripted campaign] which will be '''[http://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1zjv88/stupid_question_dont_upvote_has_there_been_any/cfubctr updated with paid DLC expansions.]'''

: '''Elite: Dangerous''' [[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Where_can_I_buy_.22Elite:_Dangerous.22.3F|is projected for a general '''release in Q4 2014.''']]

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: '''Star Citizen''' [http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Anticipated_Release_Schedule#Star_Citizen is projected for a general '''release in late 2016.''']

: '''Star Citizen''' comes with a [http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Squadron_42 single-player focused cinematic scripted campaign] and is projected for general '''episodic releases starting from mid 2015,''' which will later be '''[http://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1zjv88/stupid_question_dont_upvote_has_there_been_any/cfubctr updated with paid DLC expansions.]'''

: In '''Elite: Dangerous''', the '''[http://i.imgur.com/vXLnJea.png ships]''' are relatively '''[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33305725/Elite/comparison.jpg larger]''' for '''[http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=c0b11fe947#2 their class]''', with '''[http://elite.frontier.co.uk/images/newsletter_2013_09_06/schematic_flat_FEDCAP.png capital ships in the 2KM range]''' and atmospheric capable ones '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Why_are_the_ships_simpler_in_design_compared_to_other_games.3F|are engineered to be aerodynamically streamlined and symmetrical]]''', therefore carry their weapons within a bay. This provides ships with hulls that are able to enter and '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Will_landing_and_docking_be_seamless_in_.22Elite:_Dangerous.22.3F|freeform (manual pitch/yaw/roll) fly through 1:1 scale planet atmospheres]]''' at '''[http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130202135126/elite-dangerous/images/b/bd/Wallpaper12.jpg hypersonic speeds.]'''

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: In '''Elite: Dangerous''' the '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#How_big_will_planets_and_star_systems.C2.A0be.3F|galaxy will be scientifically accurate and include ~~around a~~ 100 billion star systems]]''' (around 400 billion stars considering most systems contain multiple stars). '''The Elite Universe is modelled on current galactic charts. '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Will_planets_rotate_and_orbit_around_stars.3F|Planets and moons will rotate and orbit in 1:1 scale real-time]]''', therefore constantly changing a system's environment.

: In '''Elite: Dangerous''' the '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#How_big_will_planets_and_star_systems.C2.A0be.3F|galaxy will be scientifically accurate and include around a 100 billion star systems]]''' (around 400 billion stars considering most systems contain multiple stars). '''The Elite Universe is modelled on current galactic charts. '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Will_planets_rotate_and_orbit_around_stars.3F|Planets and moons will rotate and orbit in 1:1 scale real-time]]''', therefore constantly changing a system's environment.'''

: '''Star Citizen's''' galaxy will have '''[https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/270108/#Comment_270108 120 star systems]''' at launch, with '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXqoyZxI_GE&t=1286 time compressed to 2 hours for each day (1:12 scale time)]''' and a more casual take things regarding '''[http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=f9f6f99d01#4 spatial size and distance of celestial bodies]''', so '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwTsSkUhQhU&t=482 planets won't be properly scaled]''' and they might also not orbit. To give you an example, '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_known_stars Elite: Dangerous will have stars alone that can engulf whole star systems of Star Citizen multiple times.]''' Also see''' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q this video to give you a sense of scale.]'''

: Given what we know about [http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/venus/q89.html our solar system], the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exoplanet_extremes#Orbit_characteristics orbits of exoplanets] and the fact that the''' maximum speed in SC will be 0.2C''' with a targeted travel time of '''[http://www.squad42.com/pages/mmorpgint around 30 minutes to cross a star system,]''' it is estimated that the [http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=f9f6f99d01#4 size of SC star systems will be compressed] to around '''1:100''' up to '''1:2500''' scale.

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: While ''' Elite: Dangerous''' allows players to own and fly [[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Can_I_own_and_control_capital_ships.3F|'''relatively large executive ships''', it leaves very large capital ships to NPC control at the start, with player control in a later update.]]

: Multiplayer is handled with a [[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Is_.22Elite:_Dangerous.22_an_MMOG.3F|grouping system in Elite: Dangerous]] and a [http://starcitizenstuff.wordpress.com/tag/pvp-slider/ PVP-PVE slider which doesn't completely control engagements in Star Citizen.]

~~: '''Elite: Dangerous'''' [[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Where_can_I_buy_.22Elite:_Dangerous.22.3F|'''persistent galaxy general release is projected to be in Q4 2014.''']]~~

~~: '''Star Citizen's''' [http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Anticipated_Release_Schedule#Star_Citizen '''persistent universe general release is projected to be at the end of 2016.''']~~

* '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY5x85F-DKM Star Citizen vs Elite: Dangerous - Flight Model Comparison]'''

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 ==='''What are the general differences between "Elite: Dangerous" and "Star Citizen"?'''===
-: The differences are predominantly in '''issues surrounding scale, complexity of background simulations''' and '''adherence to recognised science of the universe.'''
+: The differences are predominantly in '''issues surrounding scale, complexity of background simulations''', '''adherence to recognised science of the universe '''and '''release schedule'''.
-: '''Star Citizen''' comes with a [http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Squadron_42 single-player focussed cinematic scripted campaign] which will be '''[http://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1zjv88/stupid_question_dont_upvote_has_there_been_any/cfubctr updated with paid DLC expansions.]'''
+: '''Elite: Dangerous''' [[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Where_can_I_buy_.22Elite:_Dangerous.22.3F|is projected for a general '''release in Q4 2014.''']]
-:
+: '''Star Citizen''' [http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Anticipated_Release_Schedule#Star_Citizen is projected for a general '''release in late 2016.''']
+: '''Star Citizen''' comes with a [http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Squadron_42 single-player focused cinematic scripted campaign] and is projected for general '''episodic releases starting from mid 2015,''' which will later be '''[http://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1zjv88/stupid_question_dont_upvote_has_there_been_any/cfubctr updated with paid DLC expansions.]'''
 : In '''Elite: Dangerous''', the '''[http://i.imgur.com/vXLnJea.png ships]''' are relatively '''[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33305725/Elite/comparison.jpg larger]''' for '''[http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=c0b11fe947#2 their class]''', with '''[http://elite.frontier.co.uk/images/newsletter_2013_09_06/schematic_flat_FEDCAP.png capital ships in the 2KM range]''' and atmospheric capable ones '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Why_are_the_ships_simpler_in_design_compared_to_other_games.3F|are engineered to be aerodynamically streamlined and symmetrical]]''', therefore carry their weapons within a bay. This provides ships with hulls that are able to enter and '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Will_landing_and_docking_be_seamless_in_.22Elite:_Dangerous.22.3F|freeform (manual pitch/yaw/roll) fly through 1:1 scale planet atmospheres]]''' at '''[http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130202135126/elite-dangerous/images/b/bd/Wallpaper12.jpg hypersonic speeds.]'''
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-: In '''Elite: Dangerous''' the '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#How_big_will_planets_and_star_systems.C2.A0be.3F|galaxy will be scientifically accurate and include around a 100 billion star systems]]''' (around 400 billion stars considering most systems contain multiple stars). '''The Elite Universe is modelled on current galactic charts. '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Will_planets_rotate_and_orbit_around_stars.3F|Planets and moons will rotate and orbit in 1:1 scale real-time]]''', therefore constantly changing a system's environment.
+: In '''Elite: Dangerous''' the '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#How_big_will_planets_and_star_systems.C2.A0be.3F|galaxy will be scientifically accurate and include around&nbsp;a 100 billion star systems]]''' (around 400 billion stars considering most systems contain multiple stars). '''The Elite Universe is modelled on current galactic charts. '''[[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Will_planets_rotate_and_orbit_around_stars.3F|Planets and moons will rotate and orbit in 1:1 scale real-time]]''', therefore constantly changing a system's environment.'''
 : '''Star Citizen's''' galaxy will have '''[https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/270108/#Comment_270108 120 star systems]''' at launch, with '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXqoyZxI_GE&t=1286 time compressed to 2 hours for each day (1:12 scale time)]''' and a more casual take things regarding '''[http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=f9f6f99d01#4 spatial size and distance of celestial bodies]''', so '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwTsSkUhQhU&t=482 planets won't be properly scaled]''' and they might also not orbit. To give you an example, '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_known_stars Elite: Dangerous will have stars alone that can engulf whole star systems of Star Citizen multiple times.]''' Also see''' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q this video to give you a sense of scale.]'''
 : Given what we know about [http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/venus/q89.html our solar system], the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exoplanet_extremes#Orbit_characteristics orbits of exoplanets] and the fact that the''' maximum speed in SC will be 0.2C''' with a targeted travel time of '''[http://www.squad42.com/pages/mmorpgint around 30 minutes to cross a star system,]''' it is estimated that the [http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=f9f6f99d01#4 size of SC star systems will be compressed] to around '''1:100''' up to '''1:2500''' scale.
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 : While ''' Elite: Dangerous''' allows players to own and fly [[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Can_I_own_and_control_capital_ships.3F|'''relatively large executive ships''', it leaves very large capital ships to NPC control at the start, with player control in a later update.]]
 : Multiplayer is handled with a [[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Is_.22Elite:_Dangerous.22_an_MMOG.3F|grouping system in Elite: Dangerous]]  and a [http://starcitizenstuff.wordpress.com/tag/pvp-slider/ PVP-PVE slider which doesn't completely control engagements in Star Citizen.]
-: '''Elite: Dangerous'''' [[Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ#Where_can_I_buy_.22Elite:_Dangerous.22.3F|'''persistent galaxy general release is projected to be in Q4 2014.''']]
-: '''Star Citizen's''' [http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Anticipated_Release_Schedule#Star_Citizen '''persistent universe general release is projected to be at the end of 2016.''']
 * '''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY5x85F-DKM Star Citizen vs Elite: Dangerous - Flight Model Comparison]'''

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