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The '''Engineers''' are secretive, eccentric individuals who can modify the [[weapons]] and [[modules]] of [[ships]] to exceed baseline performance standards. As they reside in [[Surface Port|Workshops]] on planetary surfaces, they are only accessible to ships equipped with a [[Planetary Approach Suite]]. The modifications that Engineers offer vary depending upon their skill sets and personal preferences. Some Engineers will be more beneficial for [[Explorer|explorers]], while others will be more beneficial for [[Combat|combat specialists]].

== Engineers and Workshops ==

Pilots will initially learn about some Engineers through rumors, but as they gain access to Engineers and build reputations, those Engineers will inform them of other Engineers with a wider variety of or more potent modifications. In order to obtain an invitation to an Engineer's workshop, their invite requirements (listed as "How to Get Invite" in table below) must first be met. These requirements vary and some Engineers are easier to obtain an invite from than others. Be aware that attempting to land at a workshop without an invitation is treated as trespassing, and offenders will be immediately attacked by the workshop's defences. Once invited and having traveled to their workshop, an Engineer's services can be unlocked by completing an additional task, ranging from providing a specific item to turning in bounties.  

When docked at a workshop, pilots can access an engineer's services through ship services. If they own [[Elite Dangerous: Odyssey|Odyssey]], they may also disembark and speak with the engineer in an auxillary workshop near the hangar.

[[Elite Dangerous: Horizons|Horizons]] (ship) engineers' bases do not have a [[Concourse]]. That means they do not have Apex shuttle taxi desk, bar, and any Concourse terminal, so no services the terminal offers, like on-foot missions etc.<br>

They all have all basic Station services and also Outfitting with shop.

[[Elite Dangerous: Odyssey|Odyssey]] (suits and handheld weapons) engineers' bases [[Concourse]] does not have most of standard services (bar, terminals, Pioneer Supplies). They only have Apex taxi desk.<br>

The bases also offers no Station services for ships for some reason.

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=== Pilot Equipment Engineers ===

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!Engineer

!Modifications Offered

!System

!Planet

!Region

|[[Domino Green]]

|The Jackrabbit

|4

|[[Core Systems]]

|[[Hero Ferrari]]

|Nevermore Terrace

|A 3

|[[Core Systems]]

|[[Wellington Beck]]

|Beck Facility

|6 a

|[[Core Systems]]

|[[Yarden Bond]]

|Salamander Bank

|7 b

|[[Eleanor Bresa]]

|Bresa Modifications

|[[Rosa Dayette]]

=== Engineer unlock sequence ===

Initially, commanders are aware of a subset of Engineers from public knowledge. As commanders improve their reputation with these Engineers, they will unlock referrals to other, more selective Engineers who offer further sets of modifications. For example, to gain access to Lori Jameson, a commander must first develop reputation with Elvira Martuuk to earn a referral to Marco Qwent, then develop reputation with Qwent to earn a referral to Jameson.

Upon unlocking the services of a ship-focused Engineer, a pilot can begin accruing reputation with that Engineer to unlock higher grades of modifications. Reputation is measured in 5 tiers, with tier 5 representing the maximum level. Each modification that a pilot purchases will increase their reputation; low-grade modifications provide a smaller reputation boost than high-grade modifications, and each reputation tier requires more and more reputation to progress. With some Engineers, reputation can also be increased by selling commodities, exploration data, or bounty vouchers at their Workshops. It should be noted that Engineers may not be able to craft all 5 modification grades for a module type.

| Selling Exploration data/Commodities with a net profit of 500,000 Credits

| Selling Exploration data/Commodities with a net profit of 2,000,000 Credits

| Selling Exploration data/Commodities with a net profit of 8,000,000 Credits

| Selling Exploration data/Commodities with a net profit of 16,000,000 Credits

Engineers that focus on [[:Category:Engineer Upgrades for Pilot Equipment|pilot equipment]] do not use a reputation unlock system, and offer all of their modifications immediately upon fulfilling their meeting requirements.

{{For|a list of upgrades|:Category:Engineer Upgrades}}

[[Materials]] are required by the Engineers to [[:Category:Engineer Upgrades|upgrade]] modules on the player's ship. Each blueprint specifies which materials are needed, and how to get them; material sources include (but are not limited to) destroyed ships, mission rewards, ship/wake scans, signal sources, mining, planetary surface resources, and more. Different Engineers require different materials, meaning not all materials gathered can be used by the same Engineer. Up to one blueprint can be pinned per Engineer for usage at [[Remote Workshop|Remote Workshops]]; pinned modifications can be crafted at any station equipped with a [[Remote Workshop]], but a modification crafted remotely will not contribute to reputation with its Engineer.

Before upgrading a module, an information screen lists the materials needed for the modification, and the range for applied effects. Negative effects are static for a given grade and will only increase with higher grades, while positive effects increase per grade as more materials are spent on them. Eventually, a grade will be increased to a maximum value, at which point the only way to upgrade that modification further is to advance to the next grade. As modifications are purchased, reputation with the Engineer increases, unlocking access higher grades of modifications.

Grades must be progressed through consecutively from 1 to 5; however, you do ''not'' need to complete a grade to advance to the next one. As soon as then next grade becomes unlocked, you can immediately advance to it. The previous grade will autocomplete, so you will not lose out on any potency by skipping.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/gtf6zk/engineering_do_i_need_to_fully_complete_each_grade/ reddit: Engineering - Do I need to fully complete each grade?]</ref>

It is not possible to immediately apply a Grade 5 modification to a module unless the module already has a Grade 5 legacy modification from before 3.0. Legacy modifications can converted into 3.0 modifications, but will be reduced in quality by one grade in the process.

While a modification is applied to a module, an additional quantity of materials can be spent to apply a single [[Experimental Effect]] to further enhance the module. Experimental Effects are only available at Engineer Workshops, and cannot be applied remotely.

Please note that only one Engineering modification can be installed per module. Installing a new modification will overwrite the old modification as well as the currently applied Experimental Effect permanently. It is only possible to obtain [[#Specially-modified Modules|modules with two modifications]] under certain circumstances. This limitation should not be confused with the number of stat changes and effects a modification has, as these are determined by the particular modification and can be numerous.

Modifications for [[Suits]] and [[Handheld Weapon]]s are applied differently from ship modifications. All Suits and Handheld Weapons can be upgraded to have up to four modification slots. While equipment can occasionally be purchased with preinstalled modifications at [[Pioneer Supplies]] stores, the most straightforward way of installing a specific mod into a specific piece of gear is to seek out the Engineer who specializes in that mod.  

Suits and handheld weapons need to be grade 2 or higher before you can modify them.<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/why-does-domino-green-hate-me.578068/ Frontier Forums: Why does Domino Green hate me?]</ref>

Both '''upgrading''' and adding '''mods''' requires new types of 'materials' (added in [[Elite Dangerous: Odyssey|Odyssey expansion]]), as well as credits.<br>

The materials come from 3 different categories: [[Assets]], [[Data]], and [[Goods]]. Not all items in those categories though are engineering materials.

Unlike ship mods, equipment mods are only available in a single quality grade, and require only a single transaction with the Engineer to fully apply it.  

Once a mod is installed on a particular Suit or Handheld Weapon, it cannot be removed or replaced by another mod.

Engineering suits and handheld weapons is a very slow and tedious grind. Recommended is to visit random [[Station|stations]] and go to the [[Pioneer Supplies]] store in the [[Concourse]] to check if premium suits and weapons are available. Because this is much faster and easier than engineering. Each PS store has a limited amount of exclusive, premium items per location. They are sold out if another player bought them earlier. However, the PS stores restock every week (usually on Thursday).

The following tables summarize the modifications, locations, and access requirements of all Engineers.

|Learned from "The Dweller"<ref group="nb" name="Tier">These Engineers will provide information about the locations of other Engineers in their network only after Grade 3 access, plus approximately half of the progress bar to Grade 4 access, has been achieved with them. The game may need to be restarted in order to trigger the notification.</ref>

|Craft modules, sell commodities or exploration data to Prospector's Rest

|Friendly or higher reputation with the [[Alliance]]

|[[Explorer]] rank of Surveyor or higher

|-

|Friendly or higher reputation with the [[Empire]]

|Provide 50 units of [[Aberrant Shield Pattern Analysis]]

 

 

 

Pre-Engineered modules were introduced as rewards for [[Community Goals]] and limited-time events. These modules may feature two Engineering modifications at once, modifications that cannot normally be applied to the specific module, or unique modifications that are not offered by any Engineer. Occasionally, pre-Engineered modules are later made available for purchase through [[Technology Broker]]s.

 

*In some cases, [[Experimental Effect]]s can be added or changed without affecting the modifications.<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/elite-dangerous-community-goal-fsd-reward-and-modification-application-of-experimentals.593774/ Frontier Forums: Elite Dangerous - Community Goal FSD Reward and Modification/Application of Experimentals]</ref><ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/elite-dangerous-fsd-reward-issues-remodifications-experimentals-follow-up.593785/ Frontier Forums: Elite Dangerous: FSD Reward Issues (reModifications & Experimentals) Follow Up.]</ref><ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/elite-dangerous-fsd-reward-module-for-phase-2-colonia-bridge-community-goal-experimental-effects-revised.593882/ Frontier Forums: Elite Dangerous: FSD Reward Module for Phase 2 Colonia Bridge Community Goal | Experimental Effects Revised]</ref> Pre-Engineered modules that normally have no Engineering options, such as [[Guardian]] technology modules or mining tools, are unable to accept any Experimental Effects.

 

|[[Focused Weapon|Focused]],<br />[[Long Range Weapon|Long Range]]

* [https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/salvations-appeal-for-guardian-artefacts.583552/ Salvation's Appeal for Guardian Artefacts]

* [https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/defeat-pirates-in-planetary-rings-of-dhan-bounty-hunting.636453/ Defeat Pirates in Planetary Rings of Dhan]

* [https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/medical-supplies-for-imperial-starport-bombing-survivors-trade.567324/ Medical Supplies for Imperial Starport Bombing Survivors]

Engineers were introduced in the ''[[Elite Dangerous: Horizons]]'' 2.1 update. Engineering mechanics were overhauled and improved with ''[[Elite Dangerous: Beyond]]'' Chapter One (3.0).

4 Engineers based in the [[Colonia Region]] were added in ''Beyond'' Chapter Three (3.2). 1 Engineer based in the [[Witch Head Nebula]] was added by the [[Interstellar Initiative]] [[The Enclave]]. 9 Engineers specialising in Suit and Handheld Weapon modifications were added in ''[[Elite Dangerous: Odyssey]]''. 4 more Engineers specialising in Suit and Handheld Weapon modifications were added to the Colonia Region in ''Odyssey'' Update 8.

In the Type-8 update (18.08), an engineering rebalance was introduced. Changes included increasing the amount of materials one would typically get from completing missions, as well as increasing material availability at Grade 4/5 farming locations by increasing the number of sources of materials and in some cases, payout per source.