FSD Experimental Effects Trade-off - Revision history

Fandom>FlightDeck: Format.

2025-08-25T15:01:25Z

Format.

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	=== Max Jump Distance ===		=== Max Jump Distance ===

	The max jump distance of Deep Charge varies slightly with FSD Class (according to the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump distance than Mass Manager for Class 2 to 4 FSD (and less max jump range above Class 5)<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>. It is however less than 1%, and generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />		The max jump distance of Deep Charge varies slightly with FSD Class (according to the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump distance than Mass Manager for Class 2 to 4 FSD (and less max jump range above Class 5)<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>.

			It is however less than 1%, and generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />
	[[Category:Experimental Effects]]		[[Category:Experimental Effects]]

Fandom>FlightDeck: Clarity.

2025-08-25T14:59:05Z

Clarity.

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	=== Max Jump Distance ===		=== Max Jump Distance ===

	The max jump distance of Deep Charge varies slightly ~~depending on~~ FSD Class (~~due~~ to ~~the nature of~~ the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump distance than Mass Manager for Class 2 to 4 FSD (and less max jump range above Class 5)<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>. It is however less than 1%, and generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />		The max jump distance of Deep Charge varies slightly with FSD Class (according to the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump distance than Mass Manager for Class 2 to 4 FSD (and less max jump range above Class 5)<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>. It is however less than 1%, and generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />
	[[Category:Experimental Effects]]		[[Category:Experimental Effects]]

Fandom>FlightDeck: Typo.

2025-08-25T14:58:09Z

Typo.

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	=== Max Jump Distance ===		=== Max Jump Distance ===

	The max jump distance Deep Charge varies slightly depending on FSD Class (due to the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump distance than Mass Manager for Class 2 to 4 FSD (and less max jump range above Class 5)<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>. It is however less than 1%, and generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />		The max jump distance of Deep Charge varies slightly depending on FSD Class (due to the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump distance than Mass Manager for Class 2 to 4 FSD (and less max jump range above Class 5)<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>. It is however less than 1%, and generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />
	[[Category:Experimental Effects]]		[[Category:Experimental Effects]]

Fandom>FlightDeck: Additional revision for clarity/structure.

2025-08-25T14:56:24Z

Additional revision for clarity/structure.

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	The [[Mass Manager]] and [[Deep Charge]] experimental effects for Frame Shift Drives both increase max jump ~~range~~, but Mass Manager is likely more practical due to less fuel usage - less time spent fuel scooping.		The [[Mass Manager]] and [[Deep Charge]] experimental effects for Frame Shift Drives both increase max jump distance, but Mass Manager is likely more practical due to less fuel usage - less time spent fuel scooping.

	Mass Manager increases jump ~~range~~ by 4% with no additional fuel consumption.		=== Fuel Usage ===
			Mass Manager increases jump distance by 4% with no additional fuel consumption.

	Deep Charge permits using up to 10% more fuel per jump, to increase the ''max'' jump ~~range~~ by ''approximately'' 4%.		Deep Charge permits using up to 10% more fuel per jump, to increase the ''max'' jump distance by ''approximately'' 4%.

	For ~~jump distances less than~~ "vanilla" ~~range~~ (engines without experimental effects), Deep Charge behaves the same as vanilla, while Mass Manager ''always'' uses less fuel at ''any'' jump distance.		For "vanilla" jump distances (engines without experimental effects), Deep Charge behaves the same as vanilla, while Mass Manager ''always'' uses less fuel at ''any'' jump distance.

	The reduced fuel usage of Mass Manager over Deep Charge over long ~~distances~~ (approximately 10% when using max-range jumps) requires ''less time spent fuel scooping''.		The reduced fuel usage of Mass Manager over Deep Charge over long trips (approximately 10% when using max-range jumps) requires ''less time spent fuel scooping''.

	The max jump ~~range increase of~~ Deep Charge varies slightly depending on FSD Class (due to the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump ~~range~~ than Mass Manager ~~(less than 1%)~~ for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and less max jump range above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>. ~~This~~ is however generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />		=== Max Jump Distance ===

			The max jump distance Deep Charge varies slightly depending on FSD Class (due to the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump distance than Mass Manager for Class 2 to 4 FSD (and less max jump range above Class 5)<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>. It is however less than 1%, and generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />
	[[Category:Experimental Effects]]		[[Category:Experimental Effects]]

Fandom>FlightDeck: Further revision for clarity etc.

2025-08-25T14:51:02Z

Further revision for clarity etc.

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	The [[Mass Manager]] and [[Deep Charge]] experimental effects for Frame Shift Drives ~~offer increased~~ max jump range but ~~in different ways~~.		The [[Mass Manager]] and [[Deep Charge]] experimental effects for Frame Shift Drives both increase max jump range, but Mass Manager is likely more practical due to less fuel usage - less time spent fuel scooping.

	Mass Manager increases ~~the max~~ jump range by 4% with no additional fuel consumption.		Mass Manager increases jump range by 4% with no additional fuel consumption.

	Deep Charge permits using up to 10% more fuel per jump, to increase the jump range by ''approximately'' 4%. The actual increase varies slightly depending on FSD Class (due to the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>).		Deep Charge permits using up to 10% more fuel per jump, to increase the ''max'' jump range by ''approximately'' 4%.

	~~This variation causes~~ Deep Charge ~~to have greater max jump range for Class 2 to 4 FSD~~, ~~and~~ Mass Manager ~~to be greater above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>~~.		For jump distances less than "vanilla" range (engines without experimental effects), Deep Charge behaves the same as vanilla, while Mass Manager ''always'' uses less fuel at ''any'' jump distance.

	The ~~jump range advantage of Deep Change on a small FSD however is ''very small'' (less than 1%) and may be unnoticeable in practice. The extra~~ fuel usage of Deep Charge over ~~Mass Manager~~ (approximately 10%) when using max-range jumps ~~over long distances will require~~ ''~~more~~ time spent fuel scooping''.		The reduced fuel usage of Mass Manager over Deep Charge over long distances (approximately 10% when using max-range jumps) requires ''less time spent fuel scooping''.

	~~Also, for~~ jump ~~distances less than "vanilla"~~ range (~~engines without experimental effects~~), Deep Charge ~~behaves the same as vanilla, while Mass Manager~~ ''~~always'' uses less fuel at~~ ''~~any'' jump distance.~~		The max jump range increase of Deep Charge varies slightly depending on FSD Class (due to the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>). Consequently, Deep Charge has ''slightly'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager (less than 1%) for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and less max jump range above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>. This is however generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements, so Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />

	~~Deep Charge has slightly~~ greater max jump range than Mass Manager for ~~smaller~~ Class ~~Frame Shift Drives~~, however ~~it is~~ generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />
	[[Category:Experimental Effects]]		[[Category:Experimental Effects]]

Fandom>FlightDeck: Further edits.

2025-08-25T14:24:16Z

Further edits.

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	This variation causes Deep Charge to have greater max jump range for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and Mass Manager to be greater above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>.		This variation causes Deep Charge to have greater max jump range for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and Mass Manager to be greater above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>.

	The jump range advantage of Deep Change on a small FSD however is ''very small'' (less than 1%) and may be unnoticeable in practice. The ~~approximately 10%~~ extra fuel usage of Deep Charge over Mass Manager (~~which similarly varies slightly depending on FSD Class~~) ~~will however require more fuel to be scooped~~ when ~~travelling~~ long distances~~, and so~~ ''more time spent fuel scooping''.		The jump range advantage of Deep Change on a small FSD however is ''very small'' (less than 1%) and may be unnoticeable in practice. The extra fuel usage of Deep Charge over Mass Manager (approximately 10%) when using max-range jumps over long distances will require ''more time spent fuel scooping''.

	~~Although~~ Deep Charge ~~may~~ ''~~technically~~'' ~~offer~~ ''~~slightly~~'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, it is ~~likely~~ outweighed ~~in many cases~~ by the extra fuel scooping requirements. ~~Thus~~ Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes.		Also, for jump distances less than "vanilla" range (engines without experimental effects), Deep Charge behaves the same as vanilla, while Mass Manager ''always'' uses less fuel at ''any'' jump distance.
	<references />
			Deep Charge has slightly greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, however it is generally outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes. <references />
	[[Category:Experimental Effects]]		[[Category:Experimental Effects]]

Fandom>FlightDeck: Edits.

2025-08-25T02:22:01Z

Edits.

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	This variation causes Deep Charge to have greater max jump range for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and Mass Manager to be greater above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>.		This variation causes Deep Charge to have greater max jump range for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and Mass Manager to be greater above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>.

	The jump range advantage of Deep Change on a small FSD however is ''very small'' and may be unnoticeable in practice. The approximately 10% extra fuel usage of Deep Charge over Mass Manager (which similarly varies slightly depending on FSD Class) will however require more fuel to be scooped when travelling long distances, and so ''more time spent fuel scooping''.		The jump range advantage of Deep Change on a small FSD however is ''very small'' (less than 1%) and may be unnoticeable in practice. The approximately 10% extra fuel usage of Deep Charge over Mass Manager (which similarly varies slightly depending on FSD Class) will however require more fuel to be scooped when travelling long distances, and so ''more time spent fuel scooping''.

	Although Deep Charge may ''technically'' offer ''slightly'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, it is likely outweighed in many cases by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Thus Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes.		Although Deep Charge may ''technically'' offer ''slightly'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, it is likely outweighed in many cases by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Thus Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes.
	<references />		<references />
	[[Category:Experimental Effects]]		[[Category:Experimental Effects]]

Fandom>FlightDeck: Edits.

2025-08-25T02:18:05Z

Edits.

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	The [[Mass Manager]] and [[Deep Charge]] experimental effects for Frame Shift Drives ~~both~~ offer increased max jump range but in different ways.		The [[Mass Manager]] and [[Deep Charge]] experimental effects for Frame Shift Drives offer increased max jump range but in different ways.

	Mass Manager increases the max jump range by 4% with no additional fuel consumption.		Mass Manager increases the max jump range by 4% with no additional fuel consumption.

	Deep Charge permits using up to 10% more fuel per jump, to increase the jump range by approximately 4%. The actual increase varies slightly depending on FSD Class~~, because of~~ the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>.		Deep Charge permits using up to 10% more fuel per jump, to increase the jump range by ''approximately'' 4%. The actual increase varies slightly depending on FSD Class (due to the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>).

	This variation causes Deep Charge to have greater max jump range for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and Mass Manager to be greater above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>.		This variation causes Deep Charge to have greater max jump range for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and Mass Manager to be greater above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>.

	The advantage of Deep Change on a small FSD however is ''very small'' and may be unnoticeable in practice. The approximately 10% extra fuel usage of Deep Charge over Mass Manager (which similarly varies slightly depending on FSD Class) will however require more fuel to be scooped when travelling long distances, and so ''more time spent fuel scooping''.		The jump range advantage of Deep Change on a small FSD however is ''very small'' and may be unnoticeable in practice. The approximately 10% extra fuel usage of Deep Charge over Mass Manager (which similarly varies slightly depending on FSD Class) will however require more fuel to be scooped when travelling long distances, and so ''more time spent fuel scooping''.

	Although Deep Charge may ''technically'' offer ''slightly'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, it is likely outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Thus Mass Manager is likely ~~the~~ more practical ~~choice in most cases~~ for ''all'' FSD Classes.		Although Deep Charge may ''technically'' offer ''slightly'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, it is likely outweighed in many cases by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Thus Mass Manager is likely more practical for ''all'' FSD Classes.
	<references />		<references />
	[[Category:Experimental Effects]]		[[Category:Experimental Effects]]

Fandom>FlightDeck: Category

2025-08-25T02:08:52Z

Fandom>FlightDeck: New page to locate discussion of Mass Manager vs Deep Charge FSD experimental effects.

2025-08-25T01:26:03Z

New page to locate discussion of Mass Manager vs Deep Charge FSD experimental effects.

New page

The [[Mass Manager]] and [[Deep Charge]] experimental effects for Frame Shift Drives both offer increased max jump range but in different ways.

Mass Manager increases the max jump range by 4% with no additional fuel consumption.

Deep Charge permits using up to 10% more fuel per jump, to increase the jump range by approximately 4%. The actual increase varies slightly depending on FSD Class, because of the nature of the hyperspace distance-vs-fuel burn equation<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/30nx4u/the_hyperspace_fuel_equation_documented/</ref>.

This variation causes Deep Charge to have greater max jump range for Class 2 to 4 FSD, and Mass Manager to be greater above Class 5<ref>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mass-manager-vs-deep-charge.403010/</ref>.

The advantage of Deep Change on a small FSD however is ''very small'' and may be unnoticeable in practice. The approximately 10% extra fuel usage of Deep Charge over Mass Manager (which similarly varies slightly depending on FSD Class) will however require more fuel to be scooped when travelling long distances, and so ''more time spent fuel scooping''.

Although Deep Charge may ''technically'' offer ''slightly'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, it is likely outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Thus Mass Manager is likely the more practical choice in most cases for ''all'' FSD Classes.

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	Although Deep Charge may ''technically'' offer ''slightly'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, it is likely outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Thus Mass Manager is likely the more practical choice in most cases for ''all'' FSD Classes.		Although Deep Charge may ''technically'' offer ''slightly'' greater max jump range than Mass Manager for smaller Class Frame Shift Drives, it is likely outweighed by the extra fuel scooping requirements. Thus Mass Manager is likely the more practical choice in most cases for ''all'' FSD Classes.
			<references />
			[[Category:Experimental Effects]]