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Asp Explorer

2015-06-11T18:51:28Z

173.228.12.43: /* Purchase Locations */

{{ShipInfobox
| image = Asp2.jpg
| manufacturer = Lakon Spaceways
| cost = 6,661,153
| topspeed = 254
| boostspeed = 345
| manoeuvrability = 6
| shields = 152
| armour = 378
| hullmass = 280
| cargocapacity = 38
| fuelcapacity = 32
| jumprange = 13.12
| utility = 4
| small = 4
| medium = 2
| large =
| huge =
| size1 =
| size2 = 2
| size3 = 3
| size4 =
| size5 = 1
| size6 = 1
| size7 =
| size8 =
| landingpad = Medium
}}
{{quote|The Asp Explorer is the civilian version of the military model Asp Mk II's (which first saw service in 2878). Lakon Spaceways now owns the licence to construct these ships and has marketed them heavily at customers looking for their first multi-crewed ships. The ship class has earned a solid reputation for long range missions and those requiring some discretion.|In-Game Description}}

The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' has a high jump range relative to other ships in the game and thus is quite good for use as an exploration ship. It has six weapon [[hardpoint]]s and has a good turning radius for its size which makes the Asp good for more than just exploration. The Asp can act as a heavy-duty bounty hunting vessel due to its superb weapon capacity and good manoeuvrability for its size. [[Pirate]]s can also use the Asp to great effect because of the ample cargo capacity, heavy armament, long jump range and large mass (allowing it to charge its own [[Frame Shift Drive]] with minimal mass disruption while also mass disrupting the frame shift drive of most [[ships]]).

The main downside of this ship is the high initial purchase cost and high maintenance costs. Many roles that the Asp fills can be fulfilled with cheaper ships, though the Asp's performance is typically better than that of the less expensive option. An example would be pirating which can be done in a [[Cobra Mk. III|Cobra]] whose purchase cost is 6.3 million credits less, while still having a moderate cargo capacity and comparable weapon armament. Another example would be trading which can be done in a [[Type-6 Transporter]] that has nearly the same cargo capacity, and costs 5.6 million credits less. A further example would be bounty hunting which can be done better in a [[Vulture]] which is more manoeuvrable and has higher firepower, while costing 1.7 million credits less.

The {{PAGENAME}} can be purchased at a 20% discount at Irkutsk station in the Alliance capital system of [[Alioth]].<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=122593 Discounted purchase price forum article]</ref>

==Specifications==
{| class="article-table" border="1"
! Type
| Multipurpose
|-
! Crew
| 2
|-
! Maximum Cargo Capacity
| 128 T
|-
! Maximum Jump Range
| 34.91 LY
|-
! Dimensions (metres)
| 56.5L - 51.3W - 19.7H
|}

==Purchase Locations==
{| class="wikitable sortable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" border="1"
! System
! Station
! Date Seen
!Price
|-
|10 Canum Venaticorum
|HE Port
|25 May, 2015
|
|-
|LFT 1300
|Virchow Dock
|Mar 20, 2015
|
|-
|Aasgananu
|Houssay Ring
|Jun 10, 2015
|5,661,981
|-
| Aiabiko
| White Orbital
| Mar 13, 2015
|
|-
|Yembo
|Naddoddur Terminal
|Apr 12, 2015
|
|-
| Alioth
| Irkutsk
| 1.06
|20% Off
|-
| Andhrimi
| Yurchikhin
| Feb 28, 2015
|
|-
|Angurongo
|Dahm POrt
|May 28, 2015
|
|-
|Belarsuk
|Kurland Hub
|Mar 29, 2015
|
|-
|Bragpurukab
|Zalyotin Hub
|Mar 22, 2015
|
|-
| Bunda
| Faraday Ring
| Dec 31, 2014
|
|-
| Chapsugaibo
| Schlesinger City
| Gamma 1.05
|
|-
| FK5 2550
| Vela Ring
| Gamma ?
|
|-
| FK5 2550
| Wundt Gateway
| Gamma 1.05
|
|-
| [[Guy]]
| [[Mondeh Terminal]]
| 16th Jan, 2015
|
|-
| Ho Hsien
| Dutton Station
| Jan 2, 2015
|
|-
| Kumata
| Vishweswarayya Enterprise
| Jan 1, 2015
|
|-
| LHS 2764A
| Low Orbital
| Gamma 2.0
|
|-
| Heike
| Brunel City
| Gamma 2.03
|
|-
| Herthans
| Henry Vision
|
|
|-
| LHS 3505
| Olivas City
| Apr 16, 2015
|
|-
| Kugay
| Shepherd Dock
| ? 1.03
|
|-
| Kamorin
| Godwin Vision
| ? 1.03
|
|-
| LFT 926
| Meredith City
| Dec 31, 2014
|
|-
| LP 908-11
| So-Yeon City
| Dec 29, 2014
|
|-
| Maljenni
| Bowsersox Enterprise
| Dec 31, 2014
|
|-
| Mizar
| Judson Station
| May 27, 2015
|
|-
| Saktsak
| Bursch Enterprise
|
|
|-
| Turir
| Brooks Terminal
|
|
|-
| LHS 3564
| Froude Enterprise
| 24/05/15
|
|-
| Uoluskas
| Moisuc Dock
| Gamma 1.05
|
|-
| Lwen
| Oliver Enterprise
| Jan 2, 2015
|
|-
| Cauani
| Hardy City
| Jan 2, 2015
|
|-
| Zaonce
| Ridley Scott
| Jan 3, 2015
|
|-
|Jonai
|Privylov Port
|May 26, 2015
|
|-
| LTT 377
| Zoline Port
| Jan 03, 2015
|
|-
| Beta-1 Tucanae
| Adams Orbital
| Jan 03, 2015
|
|-
| Atlantis
| Kimura
| Jan 03, 2015
|
|-
| Altair
| Solo Orbiter
| Jan 05, 2015
|
|-
| Ba Babal
| Caryanda Orbital
| Jan 8, 2015
|
|-
| Beta Hydri
| Komovoy
| Jan 06, 2015
|
|-
| Black Mausoleum
| Silves Dock
| Jan 06, 2015
|
|-
| Zaragas
| Jenner Hub
| Jan 9, 2015
|
|-
| Sanuma
| Dunyach Orbital
| Jan 10, 2015
|
|-
| V1688 Aquilae
| Littlewood Terminal
| Jan 11, 2015
|
|-
| LHS 3447
| Dalton Gateway
| Jan 19, 2015
|
|-
| Aphra
| Beckman Terminal
| Feb 06, 2015
|
|-
| Frigga
| Henson Ring
| Feb 07, 2015
|
|-
| Abrog
| Thagard Ring
| Feb 07, 2015
|
|-
| Kokojina
| Ali Ring
| Feb 12, 2015
|
|-
| Gallemi
| Rabinowitz Vision
| Feb 14, 2015
|
|-
| Jera
| Moore Dock
| Feb 15, 2015
|
|-
| GD 219
| McKee Ring
| Feb 23, 2015
|
|-
| 41 Gamma Serpentis
| Kidman Settlement
| Feb 18, 2015
|
|-
| Una
| Hoard Orbital
| Feb 19, 2015
|
|-
|Malarhones
|Kurtz Dock
|Mar 29, 2015
|
|-
|BD-22 3573
|Khayyam Orbital
|Apr 11, 2015
|
|-
|Tiolce
|Gordom Terminal
|Apr 13, 2015
|
|-
|Siddha
|Meuron Station
|Apr 16, 2015
|
|-
|Asgaa
|Wheeler Horizons
|Apr 20, 2015
|
|-
|Khampti
|Wafa Hub
|May 25, 2015
|
|}

==Outfitting==
{{main|Outfitting}}

All ships are highly customizable through the Outfitting menu of Station Services. Listed below is the default load-out for the {{PAGENAME}}.

{| style="text-align: center;" class="article-table" border="1"
! style="text-align: center;" | Category
! style="text-align: center;" | Default System
! style="text-align: center;" | Default Rating
! style="text-align: center;" | Default Class
! style="text-align: center;" | Max Class
|-
| rowspan="4" | [[Hardpoint|Small Hardpoint]]
| [[Pulse Laser]] (L) || F || 1 || 1
|-
| [[Pulse Laser]] (L) || F || 1 || 1
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 1
|-
| ''Empty''
| --
| --
| 1
|-
| rowspan="2" | [[Hardpoint|Medium Hardpoint]]
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 2
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 2
|-
| rowspan="4" | Utility Mount
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 0
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 0
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 0
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 0
|-
| [[Bulkheads]]
| [[Lightweight Alloys]] || I || 1 || 8
|-
| Reactor Bay
| [[Power Plant]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| Thrusters Mounting
| [[Thrusters]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| Frame Shift Drive Housing
| [[Frame Shift Drive]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| Environment Control
| [[Life Support]] || E || 4 || 4
|-
| Power Coupling
| [[Power Distributor]] || E || 4 || 4
|-
| Sensor Suite
| [[Sensors]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| Fuel Store
| [[Fuel Tank]] [x32] || C || 5 || 5
|-
| rowspan="7" | [[Internal Compartment]]s
| [[Cargo Rack]] [x32] || E || 5 || 6
|-
| [[Shield Generator]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| [[Cargo Rack]] [x4] || E || 2 || 3
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 3
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 3
|-
| [[Cargo Rack]] [x2] || E || 1 || 2
|-
| [[Discovery Scanner|BDS]] || E || 1 || 2
|}
*''(L) = Loaned''
*''[x#] = Capacity''
*''BDS = Basic Discovery Scanner''

Pilots should be aware that Turrets in both Medium Hardpoints will have firing arcs above the cockpit where the pilot can generally see the target that the turrets are shooting at. However, turrets in all four Small Hardpoints will have firing arcs below the cockpit, where the target will tend to be obscured from the pilot's vision by the flight console and the floor.

==Trivia==
* First revealed in Newsletter #6.<ref>[http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=94dad3b09c Newsletter #6]</ref>
* Released with Beta 2.0 on 9/30/14.
* Starting Cargo capacity has been lowered from 70 in Beta to 38 in Gamma.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Asp_explorations.jpg|Asp Drawings
File:Asp_shipyard.png|Asp Shipyard
File:Asp_stock.png|Asp Stock
File:Asp_view.png|Asp View
OuuCM6w.png
hBkEGy0.png|Check out that ASP
</gallery>

==References==
<references />

{{ShipNavbox}}
[[Category:Multipurpose]]
[[Category:Lakon Spaceways]]

Asp Explorer

2015-06-11T18:40:00Z

173.228.12.43: /* Purchase Locations */

{{ShipInfobox
| image = Asp2.jpg
| manufacturer = Lakon Spaceways
| cost = 6,661,153
| topspeed = 254
| boostspeed = 345
| manoeuvrability = 6
| shields = 152
| armour = 378
| hullmass = 280
| cargocapacity = 38
| fuelcapacity = 32
| jumprange = 13.12
| utility = 4
| small = 4
| medium = 2
| large =
| huge =
| size1 =
| size2 = 2
| size3 = 3
| size4 =
| size5 = 1
| size6 = 1
| size7 =
| size8 =
| landingpad = Medium
}}
{{quote|The Asp Explorer is the civilian version of the military model Asp Mk II's (which first saw service in 2878). Lakon Spaceways now owns the licence to construct these ships and has marketed them heavily at customers looking for their first multi-crewed ships. The ship class has earned a solid reputation for long range missions and those requiring some discretion.|In-Game Description}}

The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' has a high jump range relative to other ships in the game and thus is quite good for use as an exploration ship. It has six weapon [[hardpoint]]s and has a good turning radius for its size which makes the Asp good for more than just exploration. The Asp can act as a heavy-duty bounty hunting vessel due to its superb weapon capacity and good manoeuvrability for its size. [[Pirate]]s can also use the Asp to great effect because of the ample cargo capacity, heavy armament, long jump range and large mass (allowing it to charge its own [[Frame Shift Drive]] with minimal mass disruption while also mass disrupting the frame shift drive of most [[ships]]).

The main downside of this ship is the high initial purchase cost and high maintenance costs. Many roles that the Asp fills can be fulfilled with cheaper ships, though the Asp's performance is typically better than that of the less expensive option. An example would be pirating which can be done in a [[Cobra Mk. III|Cobra]] whose purchase cost is 6.3 million credits less, while still having a moderate cargo capacity and comparable weapon armament. Another example would be trading which can be done in a [[Type-6 Transporter]] that has nearly the same cargo capacity, and costs 5.6 million credits less. A further example would be bounty hunting which can be done better in a [[Vulture]] which is more manoeuvrable and has higher firepower, while costing 1.7 million credits less.

The {{PAGENAME}} can be purchased at a 20% discount at Irkutsk station in the Alliance capital system of [[Alioth]].<ref>[https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=122593 Discounted purchase price forum article]</ref>

==Specifications==
{| class="article-table" border="1"
! Type
| Multipurpose
|-
! Crew
| 2
|-
! Maximum Cargo Capacity
| 128 T
|-
! Maximum Jump Range
| 34.91 LY
|-
! Dimensions (metres)
| 56.5L - 51.3W - 19.7H
|}

==Purchase Locations==
{| class="wikitable sortable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" border="1"
! System
! Station
! Date Seen
!Price
|-
|10 Canum Venaticorum
|HE Port
|25 May, 2015
|
|-
|LFT 1300
|Virchow Dock
|Mar 20, 2015
|
|-
|Aasgananu
|Houssay Ring
|Jun 10, 2015
|5,661,981
|-
| Aiabiko
| White Orbital
| Mar 13, 2015
|
|-
|Yembo
|Naddoddur Terminal
|Apr 12, 2015
|
|-
| Alioth
| Irkutsk
| 1.06
|5,661,981
|-
| Andhrimi
| Yurchikhin
| Feb 28, 2015
|
|-
|Angurongo
|Dahm POrt
|May 28, 2015
|
|-
|Belarsuk
|Kurland Hub
|Mar 29, 2015
|
|-
|Bragpurukab
|Zalyotin Hub
|Mar 22, 2015
|
|-
| Bunda
| Faraday Ring
| Dec 31, 2014
|
|-
| Chapsugaibo
| Schlesinger City
| Gamma 1.05
|
|-
| FK5 2550
| Vela Ring
| Gamma ?
|
|-
| FK5 2550
| Wundt Gateway
| Gamma 1.05
|
|-
| [[Guy]]
| [[Mondeh Terminal]]
| 16th Jan, 2015
|
|-
| Ho Hsien
| Dutton Station
| Jan 2, 2015
|
|-
| Kumata
| Vishweswarayya Enterprise
| Jan 1, 2015
|
|-
| LHS 2764A
| Low Orbital
| Gamma 2.0
|
|-
| Heike
| Brunel City
| Gamma 2.03
|
|-
| Herthans
| Henry Vision
|
|
|-
| LHS 3505
| Olivas City
| Apr 16, 2015
|
|-
| Kugay
| Shepherd Dock
| ? 1.03
|
|-
| Kamorin
| Godwin Vision
| ? 1.03
|
|-
| LFT 926
| Meredith City
| Dec 31, 2014
|
|-
| LP 908-11
| So-Yeon City
| Dec 29, 2014
|
|-
| Maljenni
| Bowsersox Enterprise
| Dec 31, 2014
|
|-
| Mizar
| Judson Station
| May 27, 2015
|
|-
| Saktsak
| Bursch Enterprise
|
|
|-
| Turir
| Brooks Terminal
|
|
|-
| LHS 3564
| Froude Enterprise
| 24/05/15
|
|-
| Uoluskas
| Moisuc Dock
| Gamma 1.05
|
|-
| Lwen
| Oliver Enterprise
| Jan 2, 2015
|
|-
| Cauani
| Hardy City
| Jan 2, 2015
|
|-
| Zaonce
| Ridley Scott
| Jan 3, 2015
|
|-
|Jonai
|Privylov Port
|May 26, 2015
|
|-
| LTT 377
| Zoline Port
| Jan 03, 2015
|
|-
| Beta-1 Tucanae
| Adams Orbital
| Jan 03, 2015
|
|-
| Atlantis
| Kimura
| Jan 03, 2015
|
|-
| Altair
| Solo Orbiter
| Jan 05, 2015
|
|-
| Ba Babal
| Caryanda Orbital
| Jan 8, 2015
|
|-
| Beta Hydri
| Komovoy
| Jan 06, 2015
|
|-
| Black Mausoleum
| Silves Dock
| Jan 06, 2015
|
|-
| Zaragas
| Jenner Hub
| Jan 9, 2015
|
|-
| Sanuma
| Dunyach Orbital
| Jan 10, 2015
|
|-
| V1688 Aquilae
| Littlewood Terminal
| Jan 11, 2015
|
|-
| LHS 3447
| Dalton Gateway
| Jan 19, 2015
|
|-
| Aphra
| Beckman Terminal
| Feb 06, 2015
|
|-
| Frigga
| Henson Ring
| Feb 07, 2015
|
|-
| Abrog
| Thagard Ring
| Feb 07, 2015
|
|-
| Kokojina
| Ali Ring
| Feb 12, 2015
|
|-
| Gallemi
| Rabinowitz Vision
| Feb 14, 2015
|
|-
| Jera
| Moore Dock
| Feb 15, 2015
|
|-
| GD 219
| McKee Ring
| Feb 23, 2015
|
|-
| 41 Gamma Serpentis
| Kidman Settlement
| Feb 18, 2015
|
|-
| Una
| Hoard Orbital
| Feb 19, 2015
|
|-
|Malarhones
|Kurtz Dock
|Mar 29, 2015
|
|-
|BD-22 3573
|Khayyam Orbital
|Apr 11, 2015
|
|-
|Tiolce
|Gordom Terminal
|Apr 13, 2015
|
|-
|Siddha
|Meuron Station
|Apr 16, 2015
|
|-
|Asgaa
|Wheeler Horizons
|Apr 20, 2015
|
|-
|Khampti
|Wafa Hub
|May 25, 2015
|
|}

==Outfitting==
{{main|Outfitting}}

All ships are highly customizable through the Outfitting menu of Station Services. Listed below is the default load-out for the {{PAGENAME}}.

{| style="text-align: center;" class="article-table" border="1"
! style="text-align: center;" | Category
! style="text-align: center;" | Default System
! style="text-align: center;" | Default Rating
! style="text-align: center;" | Default Class
! style="text-align: center;" | Max Class
|-
| rowspan="4" | [[Hardpoint|Small Hardpoint]]
| [[Pulse Laser]] (L) || F || 1 || 1
|-
| [[Pulse Laser]] (L) || F || 1 || 1
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 1
|-
| ''Empty''
| --
| --
| 1
|-
| rowspan="2" | [[Hardpoint|Medium Hardpoint]]
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 2
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 2
|-
| rowspan="4" | Utility Mount
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 0
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 0
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 0
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 0
|-
| [[Bulkheads]]
| [[Lightweight Alloys]] || I || 1 || 8
|-
| Reactor Bay
| [[Power Plant]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| Thrusters Mounting
| [[Thrusters]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| Frame Shift Drive Housing
| [[Frame Shift Drive]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| Environment Control
| [[Life Support]] || E || 4 || 4
|-
| Power Coupling
| [[Power Distributor]] || E || 4 || 4
|-
| Sensor Suite
| [[Sensors]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| Fuel Store
| [[Fuel Tank]] [x32] || C || 5 || 5
|-
| rowspan="7" | [[Internal Compartment]]s
| [[Cargo Rack]] [x32] || E || 5 || 6
|-
| [[Shield Generator]] || E || 5 || 5
|-
| [[Cargo Rack]] [x4] || E || 2 || 3
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 3
|-
| ''Empty'' || -- || -- || 3
|-
| [[Cargo Rack]] [x2] || E || 1 || 2
|-
| [[Discovery Scanner|BDS]] || E || 1 || 2
|}
*''(L) = Loaned''
*''[x#] = Capacity''
*''BDS = Basic Discovery Scanner''

Pilots should be aware that Turrets in both Medium Hardpoints will have firing arcs above the cockpit where the pilot can generally see the target that the turrets are shooting at. However, turrets in all four Small Hardpoints will have firing arcs below the cockpit, where the target will tend to be obscured from the pilot's vision by the flight console and the floor.

==Trivia==
* First revealed in Newsletter #6.<ref>[http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=94dad3b09c Newsletter #6]</ref>
* Released with Beta 2.0 on 9/30/14.
* Starting Cargo capacity has been lowered from 70 in Beta to 38 in Gamma.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Asp_explorations.jpg|Asp Drawings
File:Asp_shipyard.png|Asp Shipyard
File:Asp_stock.png|Asp Stock
File:Asp_view.png|Asp View
OuuCM6w.png
hBkEGy0.png|Check out that ASP
</gallery>

==References==
<references />

{{ShipNavbox}}
[[Category:Multipurpose]]
[[Category:Lakon Spaceways]]

Pirate

2015-02-24T10:19:27Z

173.228.91.153:

{{RoleInfobox
| risk = Very High
| reward = High
| timeinvestment = Small
| suggestedship = [[ASP]] [[Anaconda]] [[Federal Dropship]] [[Python]]
| suggestedupgrades = [[Hatch Breaker Limpet Controller]] [[Cargo Scanner]] [[Frame Shift Drive Interdictor|FSD Drive Interdictor]] Cargo Racks
}}
'''Pirates''' are NPCs and players who are the space-age highwaymen (and women) of 3300AD. The philosophy of an Elite Dangerous pirate is quite simple, "Give up your cargo or I'll open fire!" which is no different from ''ye olde English'', "Your money or your life!"

Pirates attack other ships for profit or gain, and very few other reasons. You will find pirates operating anywhere in the Elite universe but mainly in systems where the security forces and defences are weak, or absent. When pirating it is highly recommended to stick to "Anarchy" systems because attacking ships anywhere else will add a bounty to the player's head.

Being able to track down and force targets to drop their cargo is the difference between making money and going broke as a pirate. To track down potential prey it is recommended to equip a [[Cargo Scanner]] and either stick around a Nav Beacon or equip an FSD Drive Interdictor to force targets out of supercruise. Once a profitable target has been found a pirate has a few options to obtain the cargo: shoot the cargo hatch until it is damaged enough that the cargo is ejected, shoot a cargo hatch breaker at the ship which will destroy the cargo hatch to eject the cargo (takes good aim and piloting), or 'encourage' the target to jettison the cargo - generally by damaging them into low hull. Keep in mind that traders will often jettison cheaper cargo first and attempt to jump to hyperspace before jettisoning their expensive cargo.

==Things to remember about pirates==

* Pirates are often accused of being [[Griefers|griefers]]. While the victim of any pirate attack may view such actions as griefing, the pirate(s) will view the same situation as their normal routine.
* Pirates often miscalculate their chances and will attack you even when you are in a better equipped ship with more firepower. In which case, KILL THEM!
* If a pirate is an NPC in a better ship than you, run. Also if you dump a small amount of cargo they will stop to pick it up.
* If it's a player in a better, faster ship they will know the tricks to not letting you get away and will likely blow your rear off. Better to meet their demands (or run anyway if they are the shoot first kind).
* There's such a thing as a good pirate, he isn't a good person but he's good at what he does. If he talks to you: listen, if you run or shoot first you will likely die.
* A good pirate knows that if he kills you after you have given up cargo, you will likely add him to his ignore list. That is bad for his long term profits so he shouldn't kill you if you give up cargo.
* Keep an eye on the comms.
* If you are a pirate give the ultimatum "Kill your engines or I'll kill you." before asking for cargo as zeroing your thrust is easier to do than dropping cargo so they are more likely to do it. From there you have the time to talk it over.